East London and West Essex have reported more on the letter Michael sent to TL…
Why did I title the post “Fallen on Deaf Ears”?, well, it was the first thing that came to mind after reading the article.
Someone once said only about 10% of what you read in papers is true. Well, I don’t know that as a fact, but it is something to bear in mind when we read things in papers and when we comment on what we read. So with that said…
Aparantly Michaels letter has been interpreted as a “feeble attack”
Commenting on the letter, sent from New Zealand where Mr Barrymore now lives, Mr Lubbock said: “He’s trying to attack. It’s a feeble attack. I believe we have Barrymore on the back foot. I think he’s running out of room to manoeuvre.”
A feeble attack??? I can’t get over it. How can that letter be made out to be a feeble attack? I dont understand.
Its more like a “Come on Terry, I’m willing to work with you, but we’re not going to get very far if you keep making these accusations against me and refusing to look at the whole picture”
And we read:
Tony Bennett, who failed in a recent attempt to bring a private prosecution against Mr Barrymore, said of the letter: “It’s an error of judgement to have written it. It would have been better not to have written it. It doesn’t take the case any further. It doesn’t help the situation at all. What is needed is somebody to talk about what happened before he (Stuart) was found (in the pool).
So talk about what happened before and ignor what happened afterwards then? So I guess they have already made up their mind as to what they believe happened and are not interest in the possibility that something may have occured afterwards?
They seem to be ignoring Michael telling TL that there is nothing more he can add, instead they are expecting him to add more information otherwise anything besides that Michael tries to say isn’t constructive?
The focus is still on Michael! Is it just me or are they not listening to what Michael is saying to them? Hense falling on deaf ears?
Let me ask a question, if it was you or me in this situation, would you still be willing to help?
The letter ends: “I am prepared to honour our agreement to work together but you must be constructive and not keep ignoring proven facts. If we can persuade the police to assist, their first enquiry should be into the ‘missing eight hours’.”
Michael is obviously still prepared to help – if it were me, I would not be. I would of had enough and told them to get on with it. It seems to me the more involvement Michael has, the more amunition he gives them to turn it back around onto him. He’s not going to persuade them, and you can’t say he hasn’t tried but if he writes a personal letter to TL and then TL runs to the papers with it, then whats the point?
In my opinion, Michael has given up enough for this, he’s tried to help and its gotten him nowhere.
I write these things and wonder if I come across as being biased, but then I talk about what I read with I believe to be common sense. From the bits of the letter that TL has had published, I can see no form of attack.
I’m sorry to say, but I think anything Michael does or says will not be enough because it appears to me that they are only focused on getting Michael to explain everything that went on, which Michael can’t do of course because he doesn’t know. It seems to me that they just don’t believe what Michael has said, and if that’s the case, then where do you go from there?
I just get the feeling now that if Michael has any form of contact with TL, its going to be in the papers, its not going to be a private matter.
In my eyes, its not Michael who is doing the attacking.
Hi Nicky
It is getting crazy isn’t it. I think Michael has done all he can for TL and should just ignore him and his lawyer. Unfortuantly TL seems to be totally incapable of logical thinking otherwise he would see his Mr Bennett for what he is. Obviously every letter the man writes for TL, every trip to the press and every bit of advice costs money. He isn’t doing it all for nothing but will charge fees for every little thing. Unless TL parts company from him there is no hope of it ever ending. He isn’t going to let this easy money source out of his hands without a fight.
It is so frustrating, isn’t it! One positive thing here though is that the letter that Michael wrote is perfect – it is understanding, polite, he still offers to work together with TL and simply says that he knows no more than he has already said and that the accusations and letters will need to stop for them to be able to work together etc – anyone reading it in the Essex newspaper will surely understand and sympathise with Michael’s viewpoint. I really can’t imagine that anyone will think any less of him because of it. Maybe they will even begin to see through TL and his ever present lawyer.
However, it is disgusting that these two individuals can persecute Michael like this and get away with it. They complain about one polite letter in which he even offers to work together, yet thmselves have apparently bombarded Michael with letters, no doubt containing accusations and demands – and which Michael has never mentioned once.
It is strange that they didn’t discuss that the witness apparently lied on one of their outings to the press (although her latest statement to the NOTW showed up all the private prosecution accusations as being lies). It didn’t fit their ‘Michael is guilty’ agenda that they are trying so hard to keep going. At least none of the national newspapers seem to be interested so far.
Still, I’m desperately sorry for Michael. He must have been so disappointed at TL change of heart after their meeting – but as he said in his letter, some people seems to have a different agenda. I think he is right and we need look no further than the lawyer.
And I don’t think you are the slightest bit biased, Nicky!
Interesting bringing up the point of money – I somehow don’t believe that Tony Bennett is acting out of the goodness of his heart. So how is he making his money? He isn’t a lawyer anymore is he, so he can’t be charging a fee in that sense…he himself describes himself as a “Self Employed rights advisor” What the eck is one of them anyway..he also says
Concerned citizen for Barrymores possible crimes? (as stated here
hmmm…. I see a picture forming. So, this is just my speculation on the matter – Terry Lubbock is not a rich man, therefore, how can he pay Essex man Tony Bennett for his services? Could it be that the interest of the press/media doing a TV show etc, might be his hope of income?
Acting as a “Concerned Citizen” could possibly imply that he is not charging a fee.. so does this mean he is hoping to get paid by the media which is why the media know EVERYTHING that is going on? Of course I don’t know that because I can’t read his mind, but…
Well, I’ve said before that I just could not understand why TL was running to the press with everything when I would think anyone else would not be interested in the press. Maybe this could present a possible explanation…hmm..just thinking out loud.
It would also seem that Tony Bennett has a bit of a reputation for being “Outspoken”. Whilst he was working with Kilroy Silk he was warned to keep a low profile!!
Taken from here
hmm… Wouldn’t it be interesting if Michael published the letters he had sent to him… nar, he wouldn’t lower himself.
He (Michael )is probably keeping the letters in reserve and showing CAUTION AT PRESENT as its a tricky minefield he is facing and is slowly proceeding with caution.
probably (the lawyer) has same sort of bigotry to gays as he appears to have re Islam.
The UKIP party still has some MEPs but gets derisory results at local elections and parliamentary elections in 2005 and by elections and its own forum boards are full of its own people bemoaning this.It appears to be fast losing support after high water mark in euro elections 2004(which was protest vote in the main anyway)
Stuart Nairn was a “RSN” not “RGN” to be extra factual!
Looks like we are not the only one with similar opinions…
Taken from here…
I can imagine that people like TB can be quite convincing to TL. However, it’s pretty clear that not all is as it seems to be on the surface.
The press/media seem to be feeding the troll, and I cannot believe a TV show might be in the pipeline. What does that acheive tho? Well, I guess a bulgy wallet and thats about it.
I hope Michaels Lawyers are on the case. He will need to make movement to protect himself this time otherwise his name is going to be portrayed as mud again.
Who wants to delve back into these things? Its just sick and should not be allowed.
If I were Michael, I would steer clear from them now, he has tried, they were not interested, all they were interested in was the media coverage again. He needs to get an injunction out on them for harassment or something!
I know I keep ranting on about it, but how could all of this happened to Michael Barrymore? Where was his protection? Where is his protection now?
Why does this country allow this to happen with no consequences? Its just so incredible! Michael nearly took his life because of this (THANK GOD HE DIDN’T!).
It makes me so angry.
The good thing about blogs like this, is that you can vent your thoughts openly, there is no script and there is no agenda, it is all spontaneous and getting things out in the open. Nothing is hidden, and to me, talking about all this, its really made me think and look into/research/delve into things to try to make sense of it all.
From everything I have read since building this site, Michaels innocence in all this it 100% obvious and he really has taken on the chin whatever has been unfairly dished out to him.
I’m sorry to say that I no longer simpathise with Terry Lubbock. He’s a grown up man who can make his own decisions and is accountable for HIS OWN actions. The only crime is what they have been allowed to do to Michael Barrymore. I don’t say that because I am a fan, (I dont even like that word), all I am is someone who saw a bloke being treated in a way he didn’t deserve and this was the way I thought I could add a little bit of support.
I didn’t expect to get wrapped up in this subject and I know its dominated alot of the blog, but its the difference between right and wrong in the end. What TL and TB have been allowed to do to Michael Barrymore IS WRONG! Don’t just throw it out of court, warn them to STOP.
They rely on “seeking the truth to a possible crime”, what an excuse to be allowed to ruin someones life! THERE WAS NO CRIME! GET OVER IT!
Sorry, went on a rant then.
I dont mind it dominating the blog nicky(and liz!)or your very interesting alleged “rants”(data sharing transmissions I prefer to name them…better than those who are silent “all” the time!)
Even if I dont add anything when I visit it is interesting to visit this site and get lots of extra viewpoints;and theories re this case /affair.
I did send some of this material/data/copies of new articles to Mark Simpson and occasionally he writes back.I thought it best to keep him informed if Im online anyway;as he may one day do another good piece and he keeps saying to me “I didnt know about that letter..wasnt aware of that development”; so hopefully I wasn’t wasting my time!!!
I NOW KNOW ALSO A LOT ABOUT TERRY BENNETT-MILES… AND HIS BACKGROUND…. I NEVER KNEW BEFORE!!!stuff you dont read about if you hust pick up the newspaper articles in essex or nationally in uk…reading the story without all the extra details!!!
keep ranting!its “data transmission to all interested MB fans” …not ranting!plus it makes one feel better!
“Data Sharing Tranmission”?
I’ll remember that in future Paul
I agree Nicky – TL has certainly suffered a tragic loss as have many thousands since – however, Michael has suffered too. He has lost his livelihood, almost his sanity and his home when he felt unable to live in the UK anymore and was afraid to go out on the street, it has cost him all the money he had worked so hard for and maybe his future.
I was living in Germany at the time of the incident but I have read all about it. I also feel that it isn’t right that TL (and TB) has been allowed to persecute an individual by making slanderous allegations by implying that this person is directly responsible for his son’s death. All without any fragment of evidence. I find it hard to believe that they can do this without any repercussions. Michael is far too generous. Maybe he is afraid of public opinion but his UK PA and lawyers could do it for him.
I also no longer have much sympathy for TL. If he isn’t able to see what he is doing to Michael with his witch-hunt and show a bit of humanity then he doesn’t really deserve it. He should just once stop and listen to what Michael has been telling him. If have read all the old press reports and over all the years Michael has not changed his version of events in the slightest. Surely that shows that he is telling the truth. I just hope that more people will start to think like that.
I do still feel sorry for terry as he has had a stroke…
but I except your points entirly Liz
have you visited the DSN forum recently?…there’s a lot about Jodie’s “misfortune” re floggin’ the dead horse of her celeb BB suitKase…and her bloggin’…and even her alleged “doggin’”!!!
(blogging,flogging and dogging…not my words…theirs..or rather cameraman’s!!!)
michael will win in the end as he has truth on his side….just takes time is all…
I didn’t realise that TL had had a stroke Paul. That can of course cloud his judgement and affect his personality. I’m sure too that Michael will win in the end – but when and, unfortuantly, the truth isn’t always enough. Lets hope that total rehabilitation in the media world, both TV and the press, isn’t too long coming. He has, at least, made a massive leap towards that with CBB.
I enjoyed the Jodie suitcase saga but felt no need to comment on it. I just read about it with amusement
Does anyone know if Mike Browne is still Michael’s PA? His lawyer in the UK is David Corker and his QC was Michael Mansfield at Stuart Lubbock’s Inquest. His PR secretary is I think Chrissy Smith, he has another legal team in New Zealand working on the case for him, Michael Reed QC is a top New Zealand Lawyer has been defending New Zealand most notorious mass murder. Let’s hope Michael gets back to work in the UK quickly.
The letter from Michael Barrymore to Terry Lubbock, I note it was actually addressed from Michael’s solicitor in New Zealand, any chance that the enire transcript of the letter could be posted? or are there legal reasons it cannot be shown? Dont think we are getting the full picture.
I agree Baz – there were only certain sentences printed which TL and TB had picked out. However, I doubt if there is any way of seeing the complete transcript unless Michael chooses to release it, which I doubt he will. However, the parts that have been in print contain nothing that could have possibly caused any offence to TL and, as I presume that they were all that TB could come up with, then they really are struggling to find anything to criticise both in Michael’s behaviour and in his handling of the situation.
It is, however, a waste of Michael’s money that he has to continuously defend himself against unfounded and wild and damaging accusations. There must surely be a way that he can get it back. It doesn’t seem right that an individual can constantly accuse an innocent person of serious crimes and they have to spend a fortune trying to clear their name – even though two courts (original + plus the one in February) have said there is no case to answer for. I can’t believe this would have been possible if it was a normal citizen involved rather than a celebrity. It is outrageous and I don’t know why Michael doesn’t defend himself more vigourously – he is too nice it seems and maybe afraid of the media backlash too.
I don’t know who Michael’s PA is in the UK – I thought it was a woman, maybe the one who TL accused of bugging (!) his meeting with Michael – or was that his PR secretary. Maybe Nicky knows.
I agree this must be costing Michael a fortune his two legal teams do not come cheap. As I understand it there has never been a original trial, correct me if I am wrong there has been an Inquest into Stuart Lubbocks death, that recorded an open verdict There has been two court dates over the six charges at Epping then at Southend via a Private Prosecution from TB. Michael received a Police Caution prior to the Inquest. Prior to the recent Private prosecution Michael has never gone to court. At the time of Stuart’s death Justin Merritt and Jonathan Kenny, where arrested but never Michael.
There has never been a trial.
I understand Michael has added a further three chapters to his book on events of that fatefull night. If Michael is as good writer as he he is an Actor & Comedian we are indeed have a best seller comming. I get the feeling its going to be launched very soon and we will see Michael back in the UK.
Mike Browne was indeed Michael’s PA and the first person he phoned that night. Chrissy Smith is his PR secretary post Lubbock appointement I think. Nicky do you know who Michaels agent is know?
Chrissy Smith is his agent/representitive in the UK.
Not sure you are right on that she has been quoted as his PR Secretary, Chrissy Smith & Associates are a PR company.
Yes, Chrissy Smith is his PR secretary. Oh sorry, just realised what you were asking for. Agent as in for work? Karen Kay Management is his NZ agent – and as far as I know Mike Browne is his UK agent.
Mike Browne was Michael’s PA never been his agent, Anne Chudleigh was I think his agent in UK, for a time he had a person called Diana Howey as his Agent in UK , getting all very confusing, who does what for Michael.
Karen Kay his ajent in NZ, thought he came back to UK for just a holiday.
Well, you know better than me. Agents/managers/pa’s whatever? I dont know or need to know for that matter.
I’m surprised he didn’t tell his NZ agent Baz. I suppose he wasn’t sure how it was going to work out. Since his antics in CBB were reported in the NZ newspapers once it started, he didn’t keep it secret very long. I just hope she wasn’t offended by him not confiding in her.
Karen Kaye is still Michael’s agent in New Zealand
so guess all is OK as still listed with her.
Everything is being reported in New Zealand on the Lubbock saga has been reported on TV & in the press the New Zealand Herald has done a lot on it. At the end of the day Michael makes his own choices who he tells.
I wasnt able to post twice as the site wouldnt accept them(some technicla glitch lost 2 posts..)(to explain “test” if that was cryptic!!)loved the piece ending in spangles…I will try them!!!
to Baz…there was a perjury charge levelled at Michael for a while(re not being able to swim etc)..but I think then dropped..and shown to be false charge…and its turned full circle…and one of the witnesses at pool party was investigated…for perjury..(dont know what happened re that matter?anyone know?)..because she gave a lie detector test to news of the world..which contradicted what she said at coroner’s court.
Paul
Kylie Merrit is the person in question, I think there is new investigation by Essex Police into Kylie Merritt and what she has told the NWW and what she said on that lie dector test. Probably without realising more interested in earning a fast buck she may have given the opportunity for a reopening of the Inquest.
Michael and the swimming matter, I think there were two winesses Cheryl and his trainer who said he could swim, yes think this was dropped.
I think it was proved/accepted that Michael could not swim, Baz. Although Cheryl did call the police to tell them that Michael could swim, this claim was refuted by a number of people who all said they had seen Michael do nothing more than stand in the shallow end of a swimming pool – never swim. The perjury case against him was dropped because he could prove this beyond all reasonable doubt, to poach a legal phrase. In fact, I believe I read that everyone who knew him said the claim was rubbish – apart from the two you mentioned who had their reasons – rejected wife and possible ex-employee (the latter is only a guess – only my humble opinion – I do not claim it to be fact!!!!)
Whether Michael could swim or not had no influence on the tragic outcome of that night. At least one person immediately jumped in to pull SL out. It isn’t as though they were battling against a strong ocean current but it happened in a small swimming pool.
As for Kylie, I see no reason to prosecute her 5 years later. She is probably a different person now and should not be frightened into possibly lying again – this is also only my opinion!
I don’t think Michael tells the NZ press Baz but they are interested in news about one of their adopted citizens who they seem to like. They too scan the world’s news and reported on Michael’s antics in CBB. He was locked away in the house then and certainly cannot be blamed for any coverage at that time which included reports on the private prosecution. As far as I can see, he has talked far less to the press than the other party has.
PS: Where was the photo of the letter that enabled you to see that it was from Michael’s New Zealand lawyer Baz? Because the newspaper reports about it all said that the letter was from Michael and in the photo that I saw I could only make out that it was it a white envelope with a airmail sticker – that could also have been from Michael, couldn’t it?
Liz, I understand Michael is very hot news in NZ. I have family down there & they tell me the Lubbock saga is the Talk of Auckland. I have seen a photo, of the letter it clearly reads from Cone & Co, Auckland NZ,it has been cc to Michael Reed QC, take it that he is Michael’s QC in NZ, as Michael Mansfield QC was his barrister at the Epping Inquest.
Liz with reference to Kylie Merritt, I am sorry can not agree with you on this, if she lied at the Inquest and has commited Perjury then I am affraid she most be brought to book. There is indeed every reason to prosecute if the items reported in the NWW are true, enough lies lets get to the truth. The statements she made at the inquest have had a devasting effect on Michael. Not forgeting her brother Justin Merritt said similar things about Michael & Cocaine.
He might be hot news Baz but I don’t think he is responsible for getting it in the press as you implied with your comment that he ‘makes his choices who he tells’ (maybe I misunderstood you, but that is how it came across). I am certain it is not his choice – after all, he went to NZ to get away from the press. So why would he go to them in NZ when all he wants is to get on with his life as is his right after 5 years. It is surely not his wish to talk about something about which he obviously knows no more than he has already said on numerous occasions – and that is actually very little.
Because I believe him when he says he didn’t know what his guests were doing all of the time that night. My house probably has about 25% of the floor area of Michael’s house if that, and I don’t know what people get up to most of the time. I have had children painting the walls, cutting each other’s hair, the dog chewing up the furniture etc. It just seems strange that some people find it so hard to comprehend that in such a huge sprawling complex as Michael’s house, that he maybe didn’t see what happened.
I know what you mean Liz. There is only me and my son in my house and half the time I don’t know what he is up to. Thankfully the cat still has his hair and the parrot is still squwarking well.
Everyone will c through Terry Lubbock this is a total tit for tat case.
Using Michael’s name just for publicity is damn right disgusting.
Michael isn’t responsible for SL death.
I hope that Michael ontime gets his comeuppance on Terry, whilist its a tragic loss I hate what has happened to Michael.
I love Michael with all my heart, don’t worry love it will all come out in the end.
My support and love is always with you.
Take note of all my letters that I send to you.
Your a brave, gentle lovable man.
How can you be any different then you can be my love.
Take it steady aah.xxxxxxxxxxx
I love you and always will and be there for you.